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[Markus M. Knodel]

Dear Ginac people,

I think one should also call for an end of the aggressive war of
Azerbaijan against Armenia, where Erdogan initiated and supports the
next genocide at Armenian population one hundred years after the first
one, and Germany again is calm, as 100 years ago, because Azerbaijan
delivers gas to EU - better we should freeze rather then support this
genocide invisible to most of us. A corresponding call would fit well to
the Ginac web page.

All the best

         Markus


Am 06.10.22 um 01:36 schrieb Richard B. Kreckel:
> Dear Vladimir,
>
> Personally, I respect your fair call for neutrality in this horrible
> civilizational disaster. But I also think there is a delicate
> balancing act between *neutrality* and *objectivity*.
>
> On 9/27/22 16:20, Vladimir V. Kisil wrote:
>> [...] Current information flows are
>> full of fakes, manipulations and war-time propaganda. The sequence of
>> events will be a subject for heated debates for decades to come.
>
> There is certainly misleading information both on the western
> (uncensored, free, and competitive) media and on the Russian
> (censored, oppressed, and state-dictated) media. But to equate these
> two would clearly mean to sacrifice one's objectivity to neutrality!
>
>> Alternatively, we may delete the whole statement all together. Calling
>> for peace we shall do the first step ourselves by not taking a side in
>> the ongoing war.
>
> As scientists, our influence on the course of events is limited. Yet,
> not to speak up would mean to relinquish all influence. (Overly
> pathetic example: If the "Göttingen 18" hadn't spoken up in 1957,
> Germany would have developed nuclear weapons.) Hence, deleting the
> statement altogether would IMHO be faint-hearted.
>
> I re-read our statement carefully and found the first paragraph
> neutral – it merely sets a backdrop. The second paragraph then
> supports a call from Russian fellow scientists – among them at least
> one Fields medalist. Recall that their plea was squashed a few days
> later by authorities. (It has since been published abroad.) I suppose
> we all agree that shutting up a scientific community is unacceptable.
> In this conflict, suppression of speech happens objectively unilaterally.
>
> Striving for neutrality we could do two things: Replace "the Russian
> government" by "everybody". In addition, we should add a link to this
> non-Russian scientists' call for peace:
> <https://www.mpg.de/peace-declaration-nobel-prize-laureates>. (I am
> aware that it is also not "neutral".)
>
> That would be my candid proposal.
>
> All my best,
>   -richy.